The loneliness at the top, and peers

“Organizations have a life of their own and a vice chancellor position is about stewardship as much as anything. I think the other thing that surprises people when they come into senior leadership roles, especially if they've come up through academia, is how lonely it can be.”

“And there's also a bit of sense making that goes on, which is to say, you're not crazy. You are experiencing exactly what everybody else is, and you're not alone.”

“isolated leaders can burn out more quickly, they revert to rigidity, they are more likely to act out of fear than conviction.”

“build your supports early. Don't, don't wait until you're struggling. You identify those people in the places where you don't have to perform, where you can think aloud, you can be honest, and that's not an indulgence. That's called risk management.”

“it's building a little bit of community support around you too, right? It's, it's, it's finding like-minded leaders, whether they're, you know, outside, they're usually outside the, institution as who you can bounce things off of, right? Communities of practice and stuff.”